How (and Why) I Supply on Properties Sight Unseen

How (and Why) I Supply on Properties Sight Unseen

The opposite day, I flabbergasted a pal of mine.

(I’ve at all times wished to make use of that phrase in a weblog submit. Rating!)

I defined to him my easy funnel for getting actual property offers:

As I walked him by this, my pal was befuddled! (One other phrase I’ve at all times wished to make use of in a weblog submit!)

“Wait a minute,” he stated to me, “you might be telling me you make a suggestion BEFORE ever stepping foot in the home?”

“After all!” I responded. “No less than, if it’s a foreclosures. If it’s a motivated vendor, I nonetheless make a verbal provide.”

“That’s loopy!” He laughed. “How would you recognize what to supply? And the way are you aware the situation?”

As I defined it to him, I assumed it will in all probability curiosity others as nicely, therefore this weblog submit!

So earlier than I clarify how I do it, let me let you know why I do it this fashion.

Why I Make Affords Earlier than Trying on the Property

I understand that to newer buyers, making gives sight-unseen in all probability appears loopy.

After I assume again to my early days investing in actual property, I used to do precisely what my pal does:

  • Stroll by the property
  • Stroll by it once more
  • Measure every little thing
  • Make an in depth spreadsheet
  • Panic
  • Stroll by it once more
  • Get scared and overthink every little thing
  • Then make a suggestion
  • And the provide will get rejected 80-90 % of the time nonetheless.

Immediately, I make my gives earlier than I step foot into the property.


4 causes:

  1. I don’t have time to have a look at each property I need to provide on, figuring out 90 % might be rejected. Life is busy sufficient! Moreover, my actual property agent would go nuts if I made him open up so many properties!
  2. Nobody ever accepts the provide up entrance — they at all times counter-offer (negotiate with the next quantity). This provides me time to see the place they’re actually at price-wise.
  3. I can estimate the rehab finances moderately nicely based mostly on pictures and speaking with actual property brokers who’ve walked by it.
  4. I at all times embody an inspection contingency so I can again out or re-negotiate if I discover one thing apart from I assumed.

I like the phrase “if you wish to get a prince, you’re going to need to kiss numerous frogs!” After all, this is applicable completely to actual property. If you wish to purchase an incredible deal, you’re going to need to make numerous gives and get numerous rejections. However it’s OK! It’s a part of the sport.

By providing on properties earlier than touring them, it can save you your self dozens of hours of time each week.


How I Make Affords Sight Unseen: Two Actual-Life Examples

So, let’s stroll by a pair fast examples which have occurred to me previously week.

1. The Motivated Vendor

I talked with a motivated vendor yesterday (after church, of all locations).

She knew that I did actual property, and thought I’d be capable to assist.

She instructed me that she is the Energy of Legal professional for an aged girl in a nursing, and on account of issues with Medicaid, the aged girl must promote her home FAST to ensure that Medicaid funds to kick in.

The very first thing I did was requested some questions, like:

  • The place is situated?
  • What’s the situation?
  • How a lot do you assume it will take a contractor to repair it up?
  • What’s the roof like?
  • Do the flooring slope in any respect?
  • What sort of worth are you asking?
  • If I may pay money and shut in per week or so, what’s the bottom you’d take? (With this query, I do know the place negotiations are going to START. She instructed me $140,000 is what the county assesses it at, however that was approach increased than she was pondering.)

I acquired a LOT of details about the property this fashion. Not every little thing, after all, however sufficient to color an honest image and make a suggestion!

(If I had been residence and never at church, I may have additionally headed to my native county assessor’s web site, the place I’d discover current pictures of the property, and I may take a digital drive on Google Road View to see the neighborhood and what I used to be coping with. Fortunately, nevertheless, I knew the neighborhood nicely!)

As a result of I do know my space nicely, I already knew a normal “after restore worth” for this property — or at the least shut sufficient for now. If I hadn’t, I may need run over to to see what different comparable homes have been listed at to at the least get a ballpark. For this property, the ARV was doubtless round $150,000.

To find out how a lot I’d pay, I turned to the often-misunderstood “70% Rule of Thumb.” This rule of thumb is commonly utilized by flippers to ballpark a suggestion worth. (Had I wished to hire this home, I’d use the 50% Rule of Thumb as a substitute.)

The 70% Rule of Thumb says:

The utmost quantity you must pay for a property is 70% of the After Restore Worth, much less bills.

In different phrases, regardless of the residence would promote for when it’s 100 % mounted up — multiply that instances .7 and subtract out the repairs. That’s the provide worth.

Based mostly on my dialog with the vendor, I estimated the rehab to price round $25,000. Subsequently:

$150,000 x .7 – $25,000 = $80,000

Now I had a very tough ballpark estimate. So, I made a verbal provide! The humorous factor is my provide was made in such a approach that didn’t sound like a suggestion in any respect! It was only a dialog.


I stated one thing like:

“Nice! So, for me, it’s a reasonably easy mathematical system to determine if I can purchase the property. I haven’t accomplished all of the numbers but and haven’t even see the property, however I’m guessing I’ll be someplace within the $75,000 – $85,000 vary, however once more, that actually relies on what I see on the home. Does that sound like at the least ballpark? Can we arrange a time for me to come back look?” 

Discover that I didn’t decide to that $75,000 – $85,000 worth; I merely threw it on the market to see if it was within the realm of risk.

On this case, the vendor would possibly say, “It’s somewhat decrease than I hoped, however be happy to come back look. It truly is in fine condition.” And, the truth is, that’s just about precisely what she stated. I do know that if my $75,000 was offensive to her, she wouldn’t need me coming over.

However since we’re at the least within the ballpark, I’ll come test it out and do a extra thorough job of analyzing the deal.

My appointment along with her is tomorrow morning. Will I get the property? Who is aware of! However at the least I’m not losing my time taking a look at a deal that I’ve no probability of getting.

Now, let’s have a look at one other fast instance — this time, a foreclosures listed by an actual property agent.

2. The Foreclosures

Final week, I supplied on a foreclosed property, however by no means stepped foot in the home. The property was listed on the native MLS for almost $80,000. Immediately, there have been a couple of issues I preferred about it:

  • 1950’s building (higher than 1920’s, like most of my leads)
  • 1 story
  • three bed room, 1 rest room
  • Nice neighborhood

Trying on the pictures on-line, I may inform a couple of issues:

  1. It doubtless wanted new home windows.
  2. It doubtless wanted a brand new roof.
  3. It doubtless wanted all new paint, inside and out of doors.
  4. The cupboards regarded OK.

Figuring out this, I estimated the rehab to price round $30,000 for the mission. It could be $20,000, and it could be $40,000. I’m undecided, however I believe $30,000 could possibly be shut. That’s adequate for now.

I additionally know that the worth of this property, when mounted up, (the ARV) could be conservatively round $130,000, based mostly on a listing of “comps” I acquired from my actual property agent.

And since I need to flip this property, I used that 70% Rule of Thumb once more and decided that:

ARV = $130,000 x .7 = $91,000 – $30,000 = $61,000

So I formally supplied them $60,000, with a five-day inspection contingency, utilizing my actual property agent to do all of the paperwork. In actual fact, I signed the provide on my iPhone, and it took about three minutes from starting to finish.

The following day, they countered at $68,000. They wished to play ball! 

Nonetheless, I couldn’t do $68,000. I may do $60,000. So I instructed them, “No — I can do $60,000.”

Now, at this level, I may have gone and regarded on the property, to see how shut my $30,000 rehab finances was.

As a substitute, one thing humorous occurred.

Bear in mind my pal I discussed earlier? The one who was flabbergasted?


In that dialog, I used this foreclosures for instance of how I make gives. And whereas I used to be explaining this to my pal (who has been dying to flip a home for a number of years), it hit me: this property is FAR higher for him. He’s planning on doing his personal rehab work, which implies he pays a bit greater than me. He may do that entire rehab for beneath $20,000. It’s additionally an incredible “first flip” type of deal — a pleasant “base hit.”

And we all know the financial institution is OK at $68,000. I instructed him to make the provide.

He did, and he’ll be closing subsequent week on his first flip!

So, must you make actual property gives sight-unseen?

Possibly, possibly not. Clearly, I’ve a little bit of expertise with this, so I understand how the sport is performed. You could be newer, and going to have a look at properties would doubtless be a unbelievable studying expertise. However I hope this submit has helped you see that making gives just isn’t a scary factor. You can do it with out stepping foot into the house.

And bear in mind, the extra instances you provide, the extra accepted offers you’ll doubtless get.

So get on the market and begin making some gives!

[Editor’s Note: We are republishing this article to help out readers newer to the BiggerPockets Blog.]

Traders: Have you ever ever made a suggestion on a property sight unseen? Why or why not?

Go away your feedback under!


Realt Writer

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